OUIJA SESSION 39 5/1/12
In this session, we tried once again to get some idea of our ‘entity’ names. Jane Roberts’ Seth called her and her husband Robert Butts, by what he termed their entity names – Rubert (Jane) and Joseph (Rob). Much earlier in our Ouija days, we were told by ‘Frank’, that our ‘entity’ names were also Rubert and Joseph. At the time, we tried to make sense of what was happening, but could never come up with a satisfactory explanation. I now believe that there were times when we were in contact with what Abraham calls ‘frivolous’ energies. It was as if they could tap into our thoughts, hopes and dreams and use this information to play with us. Of course, it could just as easily be explained as us unwittingly communicating with our subconscious minds. However, I still believe that a lot of what has come through via the Ouija board has been from outside of ourselves; but those we felt to be truly genuine, probably because of our lack of focus and belief, couldn’t always maintain contact strongly enough.
Intention set as usual. Pad and I had been compiling a list of things that we’d like to ask ‘our’ Seth about.
Kris: Do we have anybody with us?
Kris: Hello. And who is it…
Pad: Good evening, Seth.
Kris: Hello, Seth.
Pad: Shall we see if Seth wants to say anything first?
Kris: Thank you, Seth. As you are more than aware, we have a few questions that we’re maybe not going to get through tonight… Question number one, please, question master.
Pad: The first question is in terms of why we got together spiritually, me and Kris…
GIVE EACH OTHER MORE EXPERIENCE IN PHYSICAL BEING
Kris: Are you able to tell us what particular experiences we offer each other?
EXPERIENCES IN DECIDING ON HAVING IDEAS
(It seems that by ‘ideas’, Seth often [possibly always] means ‘beliefs’)
Pad: And is that something that we could only do together, or that we would do best together?
Pad: Well, that was two questions. Is it something we could only do together?
Pad: Is it something that we can do best together?
Kris: Is it…something that we’ve chosen to do together?
ABOUT MANIFESTING HOW OTHERS HAVE HAD IDEAS
Kris: That’s confusing.
Pad: Seth, we don’t understand what that means. (pause) We got together to give each other more experience of being physical, to experience having ideas about manifesting…
I EXPERIENCE HOW U HAVE IDEAS
Kris: Is that the process of us having an idea and manifesting it, do you mean?
(very slowly) YES
Kris: Not quite yes. So that’s what Pad and I are doing, together, experiencing manifesting ideas? Is that what you meant?
YES DECIDE ON HOW U HAVE IDEAS
(‘Decide’ is also a word that we think often means something different to our usual understanding of the word.)
Pad: Is that an instruction, ‘we should decide on how we have ideas’?
Kris: So it’s a statement?
Kris: That’s what we’re here for, so that we can…
Pad: Work out how to have ideas and how we can manifest them, and do it together…
Kris: Do we have any traits that are in action…?
(I was trying to get some information – a life reading as Jane’s Seth called it – about the relationships we have now and how they are influenced by ‘past’ relationships with the same people, but in different roles. Eg, a dad from ‘this’ life may have been a sister or friend in ‘previous’ life, and how does that relationship play out in our current relationship?)
FAMILY NEVER MADE HAVE IDEAS
Kris: Do you mean our relationship with our family hasn’t influenced our ideas?
Pad: Is that a good thing?
Pad: We’re quite free thinkers; we’re not thinking family ideals?
Kris: Almost despite our family, we are now following what we agreed to do?
Kris: Is that enough on that one, do you think?
Pad: I think so, yes.
Kris: Thank you for that, Seth. Obviously a tricky concept to explain.
Pad: Can you give us our entity names again?
Kris: Yeh, that should be straight forward, unless Seth’s in a tricky mood. (laughs – pause) If it’s helpful for us to have them – what was my, or what is my entity name?
Pad: Seth, will you give us that information?
Kris: Can I ask why?
NOT IN BEST INTERESTS
Kris: I’m a bit confused, Seth. We have been given them before… Were they not genuine names for our entity identity?
Pad: Were they genuine names?
NO ENERGY WAS NOT ENERGY NOW
Kris: So, that wasn’t the same energy as we’re talking to now.
Pad: Yeh, it was Frank.
Kris: So was that energy trying to be clever by saying they knew our energy names? Trying to impress us?
Kris: Ok, were they just teasing?
Pad: Were they misled or misinformed?
Kris: You’re not going to give us a clear answer to that, are you?
Kris: (laughs) Ok, next! This way we’ll get through them really quickly.
Pad: Would it be of any use to us to know about our relationships with other people that we know in the here and now?
Kris: Our reincarnational or aspect relationships, really. Would that be of use to us? Is there anyone it might be useful for us to have that information about?
Pad: And is that something you can tell us about now?
Kris: Do you have a name of someone you could give us more information about? Who might that be?
C (spells out rest of name)
Kris: Is that my sister C?
Kris: Was I related to C in another incarnation?
Kris: What was I to C?
Kris: Was I older than C?
Kris: How does she feel about being my older sister this time round?
MAKES HER FEEL PROUD
Kris: What can I learn from her as she is now, then?
HOW TO KEEP GETTING GOOD AT RELATIONSHIPS
Kris: And what, if anything, can she learn from me?
Kris: Do you want to ask a different one now?
Pad: No, I’m thinking about you channelling.
Kris: Oh yeh, ok, I’m tired but it might energise me. Shall we ask Seth what he thinks?
Pad: What do you think, Seth?
Kris: I’m trying to do it with my eyes covered, is that a letter?
Pad: Erm, ‘O’ or ‘P’.
(The glass moves but Pad doesn’t say the letters. I uncover my eyes after a couple of movements)
Pad: No, keep your eyes covered, I’ll do it if you want.
ON G I J K L
Kris: (laughing) I know what he’s doing, he’s going through them til he gets to the one he wants.
Pad: Can’t he see them without you?
Kris: I don’t know. Is that spelling ‘only’ Seth?
Pad: Wait there, Seth can you only do it if Kris has got her eyes open?
Pad: So there you go, you can’t do it blindfold. So shall we do it again, Seth’s what’s your answer?
ONLY IF KRIS IS UP TO IT
Pad: It’s up to you, isn’t it?
Kris: Shall we have a go then?
Pad: Well, only if you’re up to it.
Kris: I can’t promise I won’t fall asleep while I’m trying to go off… Ok, let’s go for it. Thank you, Seth.