OUIJA SESSION 36 (part 1) 30/12/11
In this first part of the session, we again question (our) Seth on his relationship to the Seth of Jane Roberts. I still struggled on a regular basis with what I felt was proof that we were either the butt of a huge cosmic joke, or that my subconscious was playing a significant role in our experiences. (See Who is Seth page.) Also, our Seth often refers to himself as ‘energy’, as if that was his name.
We’d set our intention and had tried to just ask for Seth, but we didn’t get any movement. We’d written out several questions and wanted to ask a few of these tonight.
Kris: So, do we have any energies with us this evening?
(very long pause)
Kris: (quietly) My doubt gets in the way.
Kris & Pad: Hello.
Kris: Who do we have with us this evening?
Pad: Ok, Seth, we’ve got a few questions for you. Firstly, in light… (the glass moved slightly) Oh, do you have something to say before we start?
KRIS U HAVE TO GET PAST UR BLOCK ABOUT WHO I AM
Kris: Well, saves asking the question doesn’t it?
(Pad was about to ask Seth a question suggested by me, ‘In light of what Jane’s Seth said – he would never use another channel – who is this version of Seth and explain what you mean by this.’ Or words to that affect.)
Kris: I know I do. It’s all coming from the stuff I’m reading about Jane, and the things Sue Watkins wrote in her book that Seth said he would never communicate with or through anyone other than Jane.
ONLY CONCENTRATE ON R RELATIONSHIP
Pad: What’s that mean?
Kris: Don’t be thinking about what Seth said to Jane, what’s important is this relationship now, and this communication now.
Pad: Does that answer your question, or do you still need to know who he is?
Kris: If I hadn’t been asked to do the film, if this was just…what we do is we communicate, we ask questions, we converse, I think I’d be more accepting of our relationship as it is. But being asked to do that film, which seems to me so monumental in light of all the stuff that I said…it just overwhelms me.
Pad: Do you want Seth to respond to that or ask a question?
Kris: Seth, you know what I’ve been thinking and reading…
YOU CAN MAKE THE FILM WITHOUT NEEDING TO NAVIGATE ALL THE POLITICS OF
JANE DECIDE TO WRITE ABOUT DEATH NOT B
Kris: Being final?
Kris: Would that be implicit in a film about Jane’s relationship with you, without me having to make it an overt statement within the film?
CAN U EXPLAIN
Kris: I haven’t come across a lot in your words that talk about death not being final. Would the fact that the…
ABOUT ENERGY CONTINUING
Kris: ‘Beyond death’?
Pad: I need to ask a question, Seth. Can you tell us something about yourself, a little bit more about who you are?
ENERGY IS ASPECT OF SETH
Kris: As in from his soul family, as we understand it?
Kris: I think we’d already asked that question in early days. When he said he was a version of Jane’s Seth.
Pad: Are you the Seth that came through Jane Roberts or are you an aspect of that Seth?
Pad: So does Seth who came through Jane Roberts include you? Is that what you mean, you were part of that Seth?
Kris: Seth spoke of what Jane called Seth Two being a future aspect of him, is it something along those lines?
Kris: So in our terms then, the Seth that came through Jane on a regular basis, was he a future version of you?
Kris: And is this why, in some ways, we are not able to have access to the similar kind of information that Jane got through her version of Seth?
Kris: Are you able to access that part of Seth that came through Jane, then?
Kris: Is your sole purpose in communicating with us, for us to make the film?
Kris: Are you able to give us other…I don’t want to say reasons.
Kris: To connect in love?
R U FEELING LOVE
Kris: From you?
Kris: I feel acceptance.
Kris: And it’s unconditional.
Kris: So, therefore it could be what we think of love, that kind of relationship. That you have our best interests…?
Pad: Ok, Seth, now that we’ve cleared that up, hopefully Kris can get over her block. Related question to that Seth, is, when Kris channel’s is it you that she’s channelling?
I AM INVOLVED
Pad: Is anybody else in there?
THOSE YOU CALL
Kris: So, when we call them they step forward.
Pad: But when Kris is channelling, mainly it’s you?
Kris: Or, you’re involved mostly, with me?
Pad: And Kris is concerned with calling it, ‘channelling’, and thinking that ‘contacting the field’ might be a better way of putting it.
Kris: ‘Accessing’ the field. Are you part of the field, Seth?
Pad: Kris hasn’t channelled for a while – while she hasn’t been well – and she’s going to give it a rest for a bit. What are your thoughts on that?
KRIS FEEL THE LOVE AND ENJOY
Pad: Ok. You’re illness – do you want to ask about that? Are you on the right lines with your identifying the beliefs that it’s about not deserving to be here, and is there anything we’ve missed?
Kris: You heard the man, Seth.
GET HELP FROM PADDY
Kris: In what form?
Kris: For relaxation purposes, mostly?
Kris: With suggestions?
Kris: To reinforce the new belief?
Pad: Would it be to uncover other limiting beliefs?
Kris: So, the work that I’ve already done with Pad’s help – the listening and exploring – the ‘not deserving to be here’, is that closer to the core beliefs that have caused me to be ill?
Kris: Will working on that and replacing it with more positive, expansive beliefs, clear me of my ‘afflictions’?
Pad: So, we wanted to elicit your opinion on our new workshop that we’ve been developing on helping people to identify and replace their limiting beliefs?
Kris: What do you think?
A GREAT SUCCESS AWAITS YOU
Kris: Could we ask you for guidance as we go along, in terms of honing and tweaking it?
FAMILY WORK IS VITAL
Pad: Do you mean the family aspect of the workshop, using the photographs…
Pad: Do you want to say anything more about that, Seth, or is that it?
MAKE IT FUN
Kris: That will be a bit of a challenge, in a way, because we will be doing some serious work. What part, if any, might you play in the delivery of those workshops?
I WILL BE PRESENT
Pad: Will Kris be able to access you in the sessions as she…
Kris: As I’m talking? In the form of intuition, do you mean?
Pad: I don’t mean necessarily, ‘and now I’m going to channel’.
Kris: Ooh, what a team! (pause) Just to go back a little. Other than death being energy transformation, what is the nature of death? Can you tell us that? Is that something you are able to access, or that you know? Obviously, you’re dead, you’ll have some idea. What happens the moment somebody dies – to their consciousness? What will they experience?
WHATEVER THEY EXPECT
Kris: I more or less expected that answer.
Pad: It seems that that wasn’t what you were looking for. Apart from transformation, did you suspect there was another meaning to it (death)?
Kris: I don’t know. I think I’m just trying to get a hold on this film, what to look for, more than ‘death is not final’.
Pad: Would it help if Kris revisits the section in Seth Speaks about death?
(I explain my concern that Jane’s severe illness will overshadow the ultimate message of the film.)
U MUST NOT WORRY IT WILL TAKE CARE OF ITSELF
Pad: So you just write it.
Kris: (laughs) Oh yeh, just got to collate all this information first. I was thinking of asking you about doing more psychic ‘tests’, like we did at the beginning with J. Not to test you, but to develop our abilities. But then I thought it might be better to ask what things could we do to strengthen our ability to connect with you? Other than what we’re already doing.
JUST HAVE FAITH IN US
Kris: Because otherwise it blocks it, doesn’t it? It creates a block that hinders and distorts it. (laughs) It’s hard for me.
Pad: I don’t think Seth is talking about blind faith. You don’t mean that, do you Seth?
Pad: So, it’s ok for us to ask questions and…
Kris: Yeh. So is it about trusting you?
Kris: Because I do have some mistrust sometimes.
Kris: It’s a lot to take in, and I’m still assimilating it all. But enjoying it and getting so much out of it.
YES (pause) WE LOVE FEELING UR LOVE
Kris: When my head isn’t wrecked, Seth, I love you loads – all of you. It’s just a journey.
(Part 2 to follow shortly)